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We are what we share

This is a quote form the 'We Think' animation video, in the Web 2.0 safari page.

All the information I saw there got me thinking very hard, and honestly, despite all the info I had on CALL, CMC, etc, and all I heard from people who already use these tools for teaching, and all I  read about Web 2.0, it was this short animation video that made me agree that we can't do much without online interaction.

Somewhere in one of the several places of interaction we are using in this course, I mentioned that I was skeptical about these tools. My questioning had nothing to do with whether I think online line interaction is a valid, pertinent or useful tool. Carol Chapelle, among others, wrote entire books prasing the virtues of the web. No, no, the web is great, blogs are great, AIM and MSN are great. My problem relates more with using these tools and making them actual class materials.

While in the US the last couple of years, I had the chance to participate in an online colallaborative task-based project involving learners in 5 different countries. They interacted through a discussion forum just like the ones we have. At first, the students were tremendously excited, even slightly maniacal, posting insanely info about themselves, their homes, their culture. Then the task started. What a difference: posting rates slowly atrated to go down, down, and at the end I was surprised to see that a few tasks were in fact accomplished and final prodicts were presented.

Now how did they do that? My hypotheses - they exchaged emails or MSM contacts, and performed the tasks via other more friendly virtual environments.Either that or the task ended up being performed by one poor soul whose teacher was pushier than the others', or whose grades depended on it. We in the research group did not find evidence to suggest which hypothesis was correct, we just hoped for the for the first one.

The point of this story is to explain why I got disappointed with the whole CALL thing.

However, yesterday I watched the video, and my perspective started to change. Web communication is a generous thing. We give, we don't sell; we get, we don't by. It is also democratic. We post and pray that someone will read and respond. We can't force it, push it, grade it. At least not yet.

For now, here's how I want his to work for me: we create the means; the learners try it. If they like it, they'll come back for more. No great expectations, just the will to become a better, more resourceful teacher.

 

 

Comments (5)

Sep 21, 2008
Aninha,
As always, lucid and very realistic. I understand your skepticism. I question the cost/benefit ratio of all we do on the net when as Sandra pointed out, she has tried out several things with disappointing responses from the students. Your story seems to reinforce this very real result. Check out Dennis's blog. He makes some valid points. I think we need to keep in mind that though we feel we have started late in the cyber race, in reality, this is a brave new world that we are creating, with new roles and rules that we all need to learn . And students will always be students, and pleasure is always more tempting than work.
Sep 21, 2008
Gilmar said...
Hi Ana...
I also agree with your point here. I have always felt a little afraid of this tendency in our job: anything new seems to be better than well known, successful practices. It's unbelievable to hear that for some nobody ever learned a foreign language before the appearance of the communicative approach to mention just one polemic situation.However, this time it seems we are all really down to earth and should be able to make the best use we can of everything we've been learning. The whole thing reminds me of a fantastic director of studies from União Cultural Brasil Estados Unidos in São Paulo who would always adivise us to aDApt coursebooks rather than aDOpt them. Modern times -basically the same approach in a new context- actually in cyberspace.
Sep 22, 2008
Daniela Meyer said...
Hello Ana,

Your report on the 5-country project was very interesting. I´ve been skeptical of this too. As I said before, I would choose an excellent teacher in a room with no equipment, over an average teacher (is there such a thing?! Aren´t we all wonderful?! :) in a fully-equipped room. And teenagers will be teenagers. They are not interested in doing HW, regardless of the tool they are using. Does that mean I do not believe in tech-interesting syllabi?! No... I just think that we have to use technology in the classroom, in order to motivate students even more. The rest is like you said: 'we create the means, the learners try it'. They´ll go back for more if they like it... :)
Thanks for making me think a bit more about all of this.
Best, d.

Sep 24, 2008
Carla arena said...
Dear Aninha,

You know I'm a believer, and even if sometimes I seem to be a "tech-evangelist", I totally agree with you. It's not about technology because it's cool, or we "must" use it because our learners use it. It's about the human connections and the communicative channels we open up. Every time I test a new tool, I have the pedagogical perspective in mind. We should take baby steps to be confident that we're going the right way. I mean the right way not for the others, but for us, for our learners according to our contexts.

Your observations about the international group are interesting, but one thing is for sure. If there weren't any kind of facilitation, mediation by instructors, the project tend to go down the drains. To show that our roles as educators are changing, but we still have a crucial role in the 21st century classroom.

I'd love to see you trying out some tech ideas in your classroom and reporting back if it worked, in which situation, for which group. In my case and as you mentioned, what I've been doing, in the sense of integrating technology in the classroom for the past years together with learners, has never been graded. I tried to add value to my classes using different tools whenever I felt it was pedagogically sound and whenever I thought it could better integrate students and we could all learn from one another.

Some examples that I really think added value to our learning circle:

SambaEFL podcast - http://sambaefl.podomatic.com/archive

Blog exchange with students in Russia about a Brazilian movie - http://brazilandbrazilians.blogspot.com/2007/05/city-of-god.html

International Blog exchange for 1 1/2 years with my students and Dennis Oliver's - http://internationalexchange.blogspot.com/

Stereotypes voicethread - http://voicethread.com/share/12718/

Interaction with Dennis Newson in Germany (he was our mystery guest) and my students - http://ctjonline.blogspot.com/

My students with an international guest - http://top21.blogspot.com/

Just to name a few... I hope these examples show you the true potential of communicating and sharing.

Sep 25, 2008
Dennis Oliver said...
Hi, Ana.

A very lucid, engaging, attention-getting post!

Here are some comments.

Paragraphs 1–3:

I had a similar reaction to the video: it grabbed my attention and made me feel (at least while I was watching it and for a while afterward) that online interaction is "where it's at." Earlier in this course, if I remember correctly, you reacted in more or less the same way: you didn't disagree with the possibility of Web 2.0 tools that promote online interaction, but figuring out how to use those tools in class was not very clear and, as a result, your initial enthusiasm changed into something else.

Paragraphs 4 and 5:

I was particularly interested to hear about the international task-based project in which you participated and even more interested to hear how the students' initial reaction ("...tremendously excited, even slightly maniacal, posting insanely about themselves, their homes, their cultures") slowly changed: the posting rates slowed down markedly. I was even more fascinated to learn that despite the posting slowdown, some of the initial tasks were actually accomplished—enabling participants to present final products (which seemed nothing short of miraculous, I imagine, since the "required venue" (the discussion forum) seemed all but paralyzed.

How intriguing that the results were what you described but that there was no direct evidence of how those results were achieved!

Paragraphs 6-8:

At this point, as in many good stories, a plot twist was revealed: your excitement returned and you realized that you now understood Web 2.0 interaction tools in a different way. I particularly liked these thoughts: "We give, we don't sell; we get, we don't buy. It is also democratic. We post and pray that someone will read and respond. We can't force it, push it, grade it. At least not yet."

I think only someone who has a true love of learning (and who is committed to help her students discover that same love) could have written what you did above.

I also think that your current goal (as sketched out in the final paragraph) is a good one: to create the means and make it possible for learners to try them, feeling that if they like what those means enable them to do, they will come back for more.

I'm also sure that those means that you will give but not sell and get but not buy will not be ALL that you will do in your classes, but, instead, one of a variety of tools and techniques that you will use to promote a dynamic, engaging, varied learning experience for your students.

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It was interesting, by the way, to see Carol Chapelle noted in your third paragraph. I know her name, of course, but just yesterday or the day before, I was visiting the Iowa State website and looking at two of their PhD programs—one in Applied Linguistics & Technology, the other in Rhetoric & Professional Communication—and I saw her photo, short biostatement, and the link to her ISU homepage: http://www.public.iastate.edu/%7Eapling/faculty.html

You might also find these links interesting:

http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2008/09/forums-vs-social-networks.html

http://www.westga.edu/~distance/ojdla/summer42/markel42.html

http://www.commoncraft.com/archives/000768.html

http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/09/10/discussion-forums-an-oft-overlooked-element-of-social-media/

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